Murray Missile 

I'm pretty sure I already know the answer but is there anyway to do it without drewing the hanger? Then again, would it technically be "drewing" if said Simplex hanger was on a straight and rust free French mid level Reynolds 531 frameset with bad paint, bad chrome and bad graphics with no hope of ever being cosmetically restored? I have a '73-ish Gitane TdF and a '77-ish Peugeot PR-10 frameset that both fit that description and only enough good Simplex pieces to build one. I just got a pretty decent buy on a mechanically sound but less than beautiful Huret Jubilee RD and DT shifters and thought it might be fun to use them on the other paired with an even uglier Zeus FD and Zeus brakes. They're extras I got when buying Zeus parts for the '72 Raleigh Competition.

3alarmer

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...are you talking about threading the hole and building a stop at the Huret position ? I think that's allowed in the rules. If it comes down to it, someone can still mount a Simplex or a Shimano Crane rear derailleur on the hanger in the future. Cutting it off completely is ill advised.

Mad Honk 

Does the Huret have the positioning bars in the body? If so there are a number of plates that can position the derailleur body in the correct way. I have found a number of the them on the inter-web. Smiles, MH

bulgie 

I don't think the slight mod needed counts as drewing. It doesn't prevent a future owner from using a Simplex mech. Doesn't harm the function one iota.
Tap the hole M10 and file the bottom edge only the amount necessary to make a stop for the Jubilee.

Who's even going to know? It'll be our little secret.

repechage

The Jubilee was produced in at least two versions, one for the Huret for Huret dropout or Huret “claw”.
‘the image in the original post appears to me as for a Huret for Huret form factor.
a Simplex can be modified, will require modification, the Huret is essentially a double stop design, one leading and one trailing. Reference one before you attack.
probably will require tapping too, 10x1.
there are various bolts for the derailleur, one used a backside fastener Inside! The pivot bolt, expanding the slotted threaded end.
Or if long enough Huret used a jam nut to control the “slop”.

Murray Missile 

Thanks all. Now to decide which frameset.

According to Disraeli Gears there was also a model made to fit Campag hangers the first couple years of production but very rare and pricey.

Insidious C. 

I have a 74 Motobecane Grand Jubile f&f with Huret dropout. Frame swap?

JohnDThompson 

It depends on which Simplex dropout you have. Ref. 4130/4131 dropouts are unthreaded and have no stops to limit how the derailleur can pivot on the mounting bolt, so you'd need to tap the mounting hole (10mm x 1mm) for the Huret mounting bolt, and file stops into the tab, depending on which mounting type (Campagnolo-type or Huret-type) Jubilee you have. If you have the ref. 4266/4267 dropouts, you should be good to go, assuming your Jubilee is configured for the Campagnolo-type dropout.

santa fe 2926 

Thought this Australian blog have a good article on the Huret mounting system. Got interested in the jubilee, and got two for campag mounts off eBay a long while back. They shift exceptionally well.
campagnolo delta brakes: Huret Jubilee RD: adapter for Campagnolo dropouts

Murray Missile 

Mine are 60-62cm.

Insidious C. 

A little too big for me. My Moto is 58cm C-T.

Murray Missile 

I naturally assumed there was a size differnece, it seems there always is.

Murray Missile 

The derailleur and other pieces arrived and the derailleur is actually in pretty nice shape, better than it looks in the pictures. It deserves to be on something decent looking.

Murray Missile 

Taking the easy way out, I have a '76 Raleigh Super Course frameset I bought with the intentions of repainting with a '71 Raleigh paint color. Worksop built, Reynolds 531 main triangle, good chrome, no RD hanger and I have a Huret RD claw.

Schreck83 

At least some of the 25” 1976 Super Course frames had forged Huret dropouts. Maybe not all, but some, like mine, did, so keep your eyes peeled.

Oddly, mine came with the “Italienne” version Jubilee RD that fits campy dropouts, so it needed an adapter washer to fit the Huret dropout.

Murray Missile 

My '76 is 25" but it has stamped dropouts with no hanger.

retroman57 

Trying to understand the various versions of the Jubilee RD always makes my head hurt, but I found this
write-up that is pretty easy to understand:
https://note.com/aki233/n/n1248c58d9177
It's in Japanese, but using Google Translate makes it quite readable.
I pulled out my 4 Jubilees and the aftermarket adaptor kit from my stash, and think I now get the general drift.
I think the aftermarket adapter kit is a reproduction of Huret part # 2333, which came with some later versions
of the Jubilee RD to make them fit a Campagnolo dropout and add B screw function.
There are NOS Huret part # 2364 bits for sale on the auction site by seller Idealvelo. PM me and I'll send you the link.
These look like they could be modified to look and function like part # 2333.
Also found and purchased a Huret rear dropout.
At some point in the future, I'll make 3D models of the Huret dropout, a Campagnolo dropout, and the adapter kit to
illustrate how these all work.
I don't know how a Simplex dropout differs from a Campagnolo dropout, so all of the above doesn't directly answer the
question, but hopefully sheds some light...

Murray Missile 

The Simplex hanger has an unthreaded 9mm hole with no B screw stops on the outside. It has enough material to file in stops and it can be tapped out to the10mm thread used by most rear deraillers. I could easily do that to either the Peugeot or Gitane but even though neither one is in great shape cosmetically I have a possibly illogical aversion to altering them. I had no qualms about having a Campy style hanger brazed on to my '73 Raleigh International because someone had already hacked off it's Huret hanger so the "damage" was already done. Which was too bad because it has pretty decent original paint but it was easy to repaint the new hanger and blend the paint and the shop that did the work made it look factory original. BUT, my Super Course has no hanger and I have the (hopefully correct) Huret claw mount.

GCBM

Jubilee's with hangers, some without...

Murray Missile 

I took an even easier solution... I bought a complete Grand Jubile bike, no pics yet.

daka

Very nice collection. I see you have both the 24 and 28 tooth capacity and early and late spring versions. I imagine others besides me are salivating over those long cages......

GCBM

Until I lined these up for photos I hadn't realized the variations I had. I'm running a 28 tooth on my Alan and will have to confirm which variant I'm using. And I'll have to go back to see whether I simply missed grabbing the long cage springs. But for those with interest the long cages are available - spring not included, lol

BertoBerg 

Are you selling these or just showing them off?!

GCBM

If it were up to me... but management reminds me I only need a spare for my Alan (after figuring out which one I have on my Alan). So if interested, message me - and probably better if you mark on a copy of the photo which one(s) you are looking at since I won't know which is which by name or year model. I didn'r realize all I had there to begin with.

13velos

I’ve never attempted to mount a Jubilee on a Simplex hanger, but really like those derailleurs. On my ‘73 Raleigh Competition, the short cage Jubilee will comfortably shift a 28 tooth cog. It does have Huret drop outs. I’m using it with a TA crank and 36/48 chainrings. It handles the big/big and small/small combinations no problem. I tried a 30 tooth cog and it didn’t clear, but I didn’t try shoving the wheel to the very back of the dropouts. I’d like to drop down to a 34 tooth chainring and see if it would still handle the chain slack. All things considered, the Jubilee is a pretty impressive derailleur.